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Handballs, Offsides, and Altering Articles to Create Faux Controversy, Oh My!

There is something fishy about Simon Borg's article about the Gabriel Farfan's tackle on Danny Cruz that was posted today on both the league's and Union's website.

If you read the version of the article posted on MLSSoccer. com (HERE), it looks different from the version posted at PhiladelphiaUnion.com (HERE). According the Union version, Calen Carr's goal was offsides and Brad Davis committed a handball in the box late in the first leg...REPLAY CONFIRM!...or so they say. Here's the addition to the Union version of Borg's post:

[Editors' note: Both the hand ball and offside have been confirmed by replay.]

Interesting.

Here's my issue with the people at the Union's website assertion...show me the replay.

I've gone back through the ESPN2 telecast of the game and at no point did the Disney Sports ever show a conclusive replay of either event. Don't believe me? Watch the replays for yourself, or check out my screen shots below.

This is the ONLY replay they show of Davis' alleged handball. Is his arm extended and not in a natural position? Sure, but where does the ball hit? You can't tell, at least not from that replay...and like I said, it's the only one available to the public.

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Inconclusive at best. So how about Calen Carr's alleged offside? Once again, limited replays shown by ESPN and neither of them is anywhere near conclusive.

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So I can really only make two conclusions about the Union's assertions. Either they have access to better replays that we've not been able to see or they're doing his best to shake the hornet's next ahead of Thursday. Either way, there isn't any evidence out there to back their bold claim.

Oh yeah, if the Union want to cry about these perceived injustices, maybe they should remember that there were three separate red card worth tackles executed by their players at different points of the match. See you Thursday.

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It just seems to smack of that; it seems to be some innuendo on the part of MLS that is simply being exacerbated by the writer for the Union. Since the NYRB-LAG series got all the attention because of Model-Citizen Marquez, we have to hype up the other series, right? Oh and hey, they’re playing in a couple of days so tune in or buy your tickets.

Look, between here and the guys over at tBG, I think everyone is in agreement that it was a match that was an MLS referee’ing tour d’force: allowing a game to get well out of hand physically, plus inconsistent play calls. It was one of those games where both teams got screwed one way or another. I don’t need a replay to tell me that, nor do I suspect other fans who are knowledgeable should either. Hopefully Jair is sitting in a classroom learning how to squirt someone who leans in to smell the flower on his lapel and NOT brushing up on the FIFA rulebook, and that he stays there for the duration of the playoffs.

While we’re at it, its a strange way for MLS to toot their horn about how they’re improving the refs and then turning around and hyping up the bad calls they made. Can’t have it both ways, Donny

by Michael_D on Nov 1, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Look, between here and the guys over at tBG, I think everyone is in agreement that it was a match that was an MLS referee’ing tour d’force

The sad part is it really was par for the course for MLS.

Just out of curiosity, what was the 3rd foul that should have been a red on the Union? There was Gabe Farfan’s tackle and the knee to the head (I forget who the offending party was) similar to what Henry got red carded for at in the New York Red Bulls’ match against Sporting Kansas City, but I can’t recall a 3rd off the top of my head.

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by Justin F. on Nov 1, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was also the tackle that Moffat reacted too and got his own card

Not sure if Zach had another in mind, but that ‘s the other one I can think of. It was beyond late, from behind, and completely unnecessary. Moffat should have kept his cool….but what infuriates me is if he had been a bitch about it and acted hurt he might have been able to “earn” a red. The way the refs call the game gives players zero incentive to respect the game and play it the right way. It gives them every incentive to dive and complain to refs like spoiled teenagers and it’s a f’ing disgrace. /rant over

I don’t think any of them were absolute 100% red cards, but any of them could have been. Farfan’s was probably the closest to a sure thing red, but as soon as it happened I knew the ref wasn’t going to have the balls to put a team a man down in the first few minutes of a playoff match. I didn’t think there was malice there, but there doesn’t have to be on a play that dangerous. I wasn’t incensed about it only being a yellow by any means.

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82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
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I need another double shot of something 90 proof
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by papabear on Nov 1, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think it was valdes who gave bruin the knee to the head.

by Futbol anonymous on Nov 1, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought so too

could’ve been a red and if MLS ever did retroactive penalties that would be a definite candidate. But again, this is MLS

by Michael_D on Nov 1, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be fair that's not just an MLS issue. That's something I think I all leagues should do

"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about

by papabear on Nov 1, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

And MLS is supposed to do

Via their nice little retroactive system that’s been in place for a number of seasons…

It just never happens, because MLS is content to rely on poor officiating…

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Nov 1, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it comes down to...

MLS thinking if they were to go back and reverse decisions or the like it would shift focus to the refereeing, only exacerbating the issue. The problem with that thinking is the thought that the officiating isn’t already a focus. Which it is, because it’s that horrendous.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Nov 1, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the same basic argument used in the NFL against replay

That if the refs know things are reviewedit undermines the credibility of their on-field decisions, and they might get complacent because they know it will be reviewed later so there’s no pressure to get it right. I understand that line of thought, but if they want to clean up a lot of the non-sense there’s no way around it. A retro-active card/suspension isn’t going to change the outcome of a game (and it shouldn’t) but it can help deter less than desirable actions.

"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about

by papabear on Nov 1, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

They are entirely too lenient right now. Farfan should be sitting on retroactive red right now, and not given the opportunity to play on Thursday. There’s no doubt to anyone but the official it deserved a red.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Nov 1, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

We mentioned that here

that particularly this year in the playoffs, some team is going to get majorly screwed by the refs. I think we’re just seeing the warm-ups but some lucky ref is going to have an epically poor game that MLS will attempt every which way to sweep under the rug…I dunno, like maybe have the lights go out inexplicably at a premier stadium several times. That might work.

/F*** you LAG, I will never forget
//no, not bitter at all

by Michael_D on Nov 1, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't argue it should've been a handball

And I can’t blame the Philly Le Teouxnions from whining about it either. When your team loses, you are far more apt to blame something other than the play of your team. We all know how that goes, and that’s me being absolutely honest and not homerific in any way.

As has been stated, both teams got screwed to some level, and at this level we shouldn’t have to endure this…but we have to, not only once, but every flipping MLS game. The officiating isn’t even on par with being able to be called poor. It passed the poor rating and sullied it’s way straight down to shit-tastic. Plain and simple. And it has not improved in any way, shape or form.

Nevertheless, we got lucky on the handball, but it’s how the game goes in the MLS. Sad, but freakin true.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Nov 1, 2011 4:17 PM CDT reply actions  

While many did Union fans did believe it was a handball (though ESPN's shoddy production never allowed for these suspicions to be confirmed)

Most folks at the The Brotherly Game blame Nowak’s poor 1st half tactical decisions on the slow start. The officiating was no doubt bad for both sides, but I don’t think any moderately intelligent person is saying the officials are precisely why the Union lost.

Editor at SB Nation's Philadelphia Union blog, The Brotherly Game. Follow me on Twitter.

by Justin F. on Nov 1, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don'

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Nov 1, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hate fail replies >.<

I don’t think all Le Teouxnion fans are unintelligent, but if it wasn’t an issue, it wouldn’t come up, right? I do think Nowak cost the Le Teouxnion the game, because he didn’t push more, and didn’t press more, but hey, who wants to go down by 2 or 3? Oh right, the Sounders do…

Seriously though, all teams have their idiot and unintelligent fans, but those are just the ones who get noticed. To point to the officials as a reason the team lost, even if just a little, is shortsighted. It could’ve played out the opposite way and been the same result. While the officials suck…both teams play with the same officials. Same with the quality of a pitch, or the fan support (or lack there of).

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Nov 1, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Personally, the replays are inconclusive on both. But here are a couple of points just on the pictures above and the replays that have been released.

1. On the Brad Davis “handball.” In the replay his arm is out there, sure. And after the play he seems to spin around, hit the ground and then pound the ground as if he expected something bad coming his way. However, take a look at that photo above. Jair Maruffo is standing in the exact perfect spot to make that call, possibly one of hte only things he got right during the game, positioning himself on that play (Hey, y’know, broken clocks…). Since Maruffo had an absolutely perfect view and did not call anything, then either (1) Maruffo is in idiot or (2) there was no handball. Personally, my vote is (3) Both.

2. As for Calen Carr’s “offside,” there is absolutely no conclusive proof on that one at all. In the official replay, he does seem to hold his run, and the defender coming in from the far side seemed to play him on just as Ching delivered the ball. It’s a close play, but there’s no way to tell on that one. The one thing we know for sure is that 100 years from now, when someone looks up the box score of this game, there will be a line reading: “HOU — Calen Carr 1 (Brian Ching 1) 30”

3. This brings up the next point. We have all gone over the Bruin to Costly goofballhood that turned a sure third goal into a comedy of errors. However, looking at that one on replay, it looked like both Bruin and Costly were offside when Bruin got the ball initially. So I am going to chalk that one up to karma and stop being all mad at the kid about it. Score Thursday and I’ll never mention it again.

4. How great is it to have this conversation with Philly fans as opposed to those nattering nabobs from the Pacific Northwest? You guys (at least over on tBG) are pure class. And you guys are right on the money. I still think Dynamo went out and, in the words of Jayne Cobb, “Took it. And that’s somethin’.” However, one of the things they took was Piotr Nowak’s very (No)wacky lineup decision. If you guys come out in that again on Thursday night down a goal, then I think it’ll be time for the Philadelphians to do a little Doop on that guy’s face.

"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie

by Martek on Nov 1, 2011 6:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Seriously

thanks to you and all the other guys from tBG and all points Philly who happen to poke around and are commenting here. Unlike some other fans (hopefully I didn’t set off their Google alerts), you guys bring fair analysis and a fair perspective.

As for the game, well, I think we all should know what’s up at this point: Houston should be looking to counter and possess to stifle what will be the obvious Philly attack. Sitting back deep and defending for 90 minutes is a first-class ticket to the couch for the rest of the playoffs. I’m ready for this game to happen now!!!

by Michael_D on Nov 1, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston is Physical; Philly TRIED to be Physical

There was no question that the Union tried to come out and match Houston’s physicality, the problem was Houston is a physical team by nature, Philly is not. You cant just turn on a switch and be physical, you can only turn on switch and be aggressive, cheap, and reckless; which is exactly what happened to Philly.
The ref swallowed his whistle at times, which conventional wisdom suggests would help the Dynamo, and it may have; however, the Dynamo paid for it in the many reckless challenges they received… 2 which could have been red even in MLS and a 3rd that would have been red in other parts of the world.

by GeoJock on Nov 2, 2011 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

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