Dynamo protected list. A few surprises
by Martek on Nov 21, 2011 7:34 PM CST
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PrintHere is the official list of protected vs. unprotected players the Houston Dynamo released. I like who's been protected and unprotected generally, but I have a few quibbles (below).
HOUSTON, TX. (Monday, November 21, 2011) - The Houston Dynamo have announced their 11-player protected list for the 2012 Expansion Draft to take place on Wednesday, November 23 at 2 p.m. CT. It is then that Major League's Soccer's newest team, the Montreal Impact, will announce their 10 player selections. The event will be streamed live on MLSsoccer.com and ImpactMontreal.com.
Each current MLS club has had the opportunity to protect 11 players from their 2011 roster. Generation adidas players (who did not graduate at the end of the 2011 season) and Homegrown players are automatically protected and do not count against a team's 11 protected roster spots. Designated Players do not have to be protected unless the player has a no trade clause in his contract. MLS Clubs may lose no more than one player from their 2011 roster during the Expansion Draft.
The Dynamo's list of 11 protected players is as follows:
Corey Ashe
Bobby Boswell
Luiz Camargo
Geoff Cameron
Calen Carr
Colin Clark
Brad Davis
Andre Hainault
Tally Hall (GK)
Adam Moffat
Jermaine TaylorThe nine Dynamo players available to Montreal are:
GOALKEEPERS: Evan Newton
DEFENDERS: Hunter Freeman, Eddie Robinson
MIDFIELDERS: Danny Cruz, Je-Vaughn Watson
FORWARDS: Brian Ching, Carlo Costly, Jason Garey, Cam Weaver
First, many people might read much into the issue that Brian Ching is unprotected, but don't fall into that trap. With Ching's salary and age, but mostly the salary, he will not be picked. The same, unfortunately, will also be true for Hunter Freeman. Similarly, I believe the injury status of both Cam Weaver and Jason Garey make them unlikely to be picked.
The rest of the unprotected list is unsurprising, except for one, Danny Cruz. I have to wonder why Calen Carr or the oft-injured Colin Clark were protected and Danny was not. I mean, I know both Carr and Clark have value, significant value. But Cruz has tremendous upside, is younger than both of those players,and proved his worth by starting the MLS Cup final, as well as every playoff game. Clark meanwhile was nursing some sort of mysterious injury that never landed him on the injured list. And when he finally did get in the playoffs, in the final, he was invisible.
Again, don't get me wrong. I have great esteem for both Carr and Clark, but I would have switched Clark and Cruz on these lists. I also admit that I am ignorant as to the salary commitments to both players. Would anyone care to enlighten me on these points?
Suffice to say that when it come time for the expansion draft on Wednesday, I am seriously hoping that the Impact look at our list, especially at Cruz, say "Non. Pas d'orange" and move right along.
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Interesting tweet
@darosenthal8 Dan in Real Life
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@dynamotheory There is something behind the Danny Cruz selection, internal problems I bet As far as Freeman,can we just release him? Please
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
cruz is curious
I would have thought Boswell might be unprotected. He has a high salary that might have kept him safe, but if he did get picked we still have hainult and Taylor while opening up some cap space. That’s probably what I would have done.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
by papabear on Nov 21, 2011 7:50 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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You and I are on the same page…we need a striker with pace and preferably a right winger as well. Effectively, we need someone who can not only take the offensive pressure off of Davis but also help create chances.
Though I agree with Ginge on not protecting Cruz, that’s a bit of a gamble unless there’s something we don’t know going on behind the scenes. Despite his flirtation with becoming a younger Watson – which I think the run in the playoffs has helped guide him away from that direction – he has alot of upside plus he’s still young.
And I agree with papabear’s comment above regarding Boz….I like the guy and he’s had a defensive renaissance with Cameron going back to CB, but he is getting older and he is expensive. We can replace his talent with either Hainault or Taylor (preferrably Hainault at CB and Taylor at RB until Sarkodie ascends the throne) and free up his rather size-able salary.
he served his function
His speed did help open up space…but he just looks so awkward on the ball and he always seemed to be just a bit out of control. Would definitely like to see an upgrade in the pacey striker department. Although with as long as he was out it wouldn’t be unreasonable that he’s capable of more than we say from him.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I can only hope
We’re not gonna give Cruz away, ala FC Dallas and Dax McCarty. Perhaps a trade is in the works.
Interesting Portland did not protect Eric Alexander, but a straight up trade would leave us snookered. I don’t see Alexander as starting material at this point of his career. Cruz, on the other hand, has a lot of potential.
I don’t understand Dom’s man crush on Carr. Protecting Caleb seems a throwback to the sentimental Dom of 2009 where we babysat players @ the end of their careers. Leaving Ching unprotected seems a safe bet, but we could find Carr like speed and and similar skills(?) pretty easily.
I realize Taylor is cheap, but he of the “ever dangerous backpass” scares the hell out of me. I cringe about the unknowable- what’s he gonna flub- factor, surpassed only by Watson entering the game.
As far as Ginge’s comments on Cruz, I can’t seem to find them. Can someone direct me??? If it’s lack of final touch argument, it’s a consensus but Cruz is young and far from the finished product. Clark, Carr, and Taylor are finished products- you probably aren’t gonna see anything much different @ this stage of their careers.
And dear God, not...
Chronic flop, “where’s my luggage and where are we now???”
Freddy Adu…
Yep
I don’t get it either, I mean I like Carr and he is a PREVIEW of what a quick forward can give us but he is not the answer going forward. Like you said, we can find plenty of guys out there with his skill-set that also can bring something else. Unless he’s protecting him to try and sell high in a trade, I don’t get it.
Oh, and here’s Ginge’s thoughts on Cruz:
The rest of the unprotected list is unsurprising, except for one, Danny Cruz. I have to wonder why Calen Carr or the oft-injured Colin Clark were protected and Danny was not. I mean, I know both Carr and Clark have value, significant value. But Cruz has tremendous upside, is younger than both of those players,and proved his worth by starting the MLS Cup final, as well as every playoff game. Clark meanwhile was nursing some sort of mysterious injury that never landed him on the injured list. And when he finally did get in the playoffs, in the final, he was invisible.
Thanks
He summed up my feelings better than I could…
Hey!
Look at the byline up there Michael. That’s me. I’m not so sure Ginge wants to have my ramblings pinned on him.
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
Whoops
Forgot about the Timbers “don’t tread on me” deal with the Impact."
Can we give the Impact Freeman & Watson in exchange for not picking anyone else? How bout Jason Garey to sweeten the pot?
This
is why I miss you. :)
I think throwing in Garey is like zero-calorie food/beverage: technically you’re getting something, but, its nothing. Or something like that
Yes
Garey is definitely the celery of the Dynamo- if not the MLS…
He’s akin to the American football analogy of sending your weak side tackle out for an end zone pass, who’d expect it? With no one covering him, he fails as he just couldn’t get open.
Read into it all you want with that if a tree falls in the forest stuff (if Jason Garey is on the field, is he? REALLY?
Am I the only one happy...
…that….Watson is on the list of unprotected players!!! :D
Dear Montreal:
As a Dynamo fan that want’s a player that can fit in our DYNAMIC system…can you PLEASE take Watson of our hands because I want a REAL #10 in our team. Thank you :)
Sincerely;
RedAce
P.S. Take Garey while you’re at it! We’ll throw a box of chocolates with him
One thing that kind of scares me
Is that if we are going to make a CCL run next year, we are going to need more depth, losing players like Cruz certainly doesn’t help. Unless Dom doesn’t plan on trying next year in CCL, we are going to need some new faces and some old ones who we might not normally keep. just some food for thought
This table might help a wee bit
HOU Ashe $80,000.00
HOU Boswell $210,000.00
HOU Bruin $80,000.00
HOU Camargo $168,000.00
HOU Cameron $220,000.00
HOU Carr $74,813.00
HOU Ching $375,000.00
HOU Clark $93,713.00
HOU Costly $335,000.04
HOU Cruz $80,000.00
HOU Davis $235,000.00
HOU Deric $42,000.00
HOU Dixon $45,000.00
HOU Freeman $150,000.00
HOU Garey $80,000.00
HOU Hainault $135,000.00
HOU Hall $85,000.00
HOU Moffat $56,700.00
HOU Navas $42,000.00
HOU Newton $32,600.00
HOU Robinson $120,000.00
HOU Sarkodie $65,000.00
HOU Soto $32,600.04
HOU Taylor $57,500.00
HOU Watson $75,000.00
HOU Weaver $89,250.00
Watson = overpaid
Taylor at least is helpful as a CB and and gets paid less than…ummm er whats his name?
by RedAce on Nov 22, 2011 8:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Overpaid Players
Clark
Boswell
Garey
Costly (he made more than Davis)
Ching (hate to say it)
Robinson
Watson ( Moffat and him should swith salaries)
Camargo (as of right now)
I disagree about Clark
He’s a money player who contributes more than many better paid teamates.
Though I agree about Boz- his value increases when paired with Cameron. And Boz brings more to the table- leadership, buffoonery, and a good attitude. Good mix for the locker room and younger guys.
I’m happy to pay Camargo that salary IF he’s a starter. Yet if Moffat starts, then either Camargo is the designated CAM or is benched. I don’t think he’s the solution @ CAM and 168k is too much to sit the pine.
Completely agree about Ching and wish we could defer his salary. I want him to get the $$$ as he has completely sacrificed his body to the meat grinder and bleeds Orange. I just don’t want the $$$ to count against the cap.
Surprised you didn’t mention Freeman at 150k.
Costly is gone. We have one of the lowest salary teams in the MLS.
The rub
I think its going to surface again as we continue: what do we do with Camargo and Moffat? Unless we simply haven’t given him enough time, I don’t think Camargo is the answer at CAM. He’s could very well settle and blossom during the off-season and come next season we’ll see a flourish, but while he has played progressively better in that position I don’t know if its another Cameron experiment in the making or if it truly is a case of patience. I tend to think its the Cameron Experiment v1.a: not nearly as painful but what you project he can do and what he will do won’t match, though it won’t be that big a gap. I would posit this: imagine if we DO find a “true” CAM, and then put Camargo as the DM? That could be scary-good. Because while I love Moffat’s physicality, ambition and tenacity, Camargo simply has a better skill-set. He does everything Moffat does (except shoot) and then some. I think if you had him linking up with Cameron and then to an attacking mid we’d have a real scary core. The issue is, Moffat is a really good DM who is dirt-freakin’ cheap. That’s not to say Moffat is an unskilled brute, but we’ve seen where he’s tried dribbling his way out of pressure and it wasn’t pretty. Camargo is cool and calm under pressure, which most would agree you’d like to have as your DM.
@playertherapy
-I thought I did include Freeman, but apparently not
-Clark could earn his money next season, but this season I feel as if he didn’t quite deserve all of it
-You said what I wanted to say about Ching perfectly
-I think Boz is good, just not $210,000 good
-I knew Costly was gone, just mentioning that he was due more than he was worth
Agree wid ya completely except
The Clark bit, allowing for his injury. I cringed the first few games Clark was back as he wouldn’t go at players or make sharp (or hardly any) cuts.
I apologize if I was being flippant or discounting you. Sometimes I write quickly and would benefit from proofing. You have good points. Given our shoe string budget compared to other teams, our hefty expenditures truly stand out. Ironically, the ERob contract was signed before he had so much injury trouble, when he used to stand out.
Agreed
But there’s always the Dom factor which brings us decisions like Cameron at CAM for what seemed like decades and protecting Carr over Cruz. What the???
Protected list
Not protecting Cruz is a big mistake. We won when he played and loss when he did not. How can we be so stupid? yes we did get rid of Wondo too.
Go Dynamo
Throwing this out there
I know its too early to get started on the “who do we sign this offseason” thing, but I’m throwing this out there anyways: Walter Montillo as the first of our two DP signings. He’s a 27 year-old Argentine who plays the CAM role for Cruzeiro and is a gem…this isn’t a third-division scrub or even second-division find, he’s first-division who even recently got his first call-up for Argentina. I think we’d have to pay $4-5MM for him but I feel he’d be worth it; he had 12 goals in 28 matches last year in the Brazilian Serie A (and I forgot how many assists he had but it was a nice number to go along with his goal tally).
Oh, and as an added bonus he looks like a cross between Roy Keane and Karl Pilkington
Um, after googling Karl Pilkington
I still have little idea who he is
A link to his transfermarket page
<http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/montillo/profil/spieler_19984.html>
-15 goals
-10 assists
Thanks
Hey, combine that with Davis on the right and Camargo at the DM and suddenly we’ve got a very dangerous midfield. Add someone with pace either on the right or at forward and things get very interesting, very quickly
If Cruz leaves, this means
Clark stays on left, playing out of position again???
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