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Be the GM: What do you do? (Part 1)

What is absolutely funny to me is I was talking to Ginge about running an article series about this very thing, and now the Dynamo are making moves it's the right time to really let the DT faithful have some fun for a few minutes (or maybe longer?).  Today's particular topic centers around the recent trade (obviously).  With Mike Chabala and Lovel Palmer leaving for "greener" pastures and Moffat coming in, the questions begin to mount.

Where do you place Moffat?  Is he a natural enough at DMid to warrant starting?  Does he ride the bench and become added depth at DMid?  If he isn't going to start, do you move Geoff Cameron to DMid and make it his home?  This is where you, the DT faithful, come in.

You get to throw out your moves, your position changes.  Nothing in this regard is off-limits (including doing something with the formation entirely...though we know there's no chance we'll see that happen with Dominic Kinnear steering the ship).  So have at it, tell me what you're doing, who you're moving.  Hell, offer up some potential trade pieces, where you're looking to trade them and for whom (within reason).

 

May the speculation and insanity begin!

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You glorious bastards

I love this…its our own version of “Come At Me Bro”

Will submit mine in a few

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Mind you this has been on my mind since long before the transfer window

I’ve just been mulling over how to make it work as a Series versus a 1time post. We all love the speculate. Lol. I’ll post mine later tonight/tmw morning.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me

It works better as a series because let’s face it, circumstances change and so should our roster, formation, etc. Ok well maybe not formation but still…

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

Obviously it’ll slow down a little bit series-wise once the summer transfer finishes, but we’ll see how it goes. Who knows, maybe there will be something special thrown in during one of these. keeps mum about something

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The insanity began two threads ago

Seriously, Micheal D, Papa Bear, myself and others wrote a book on the other thread. Should we cut and paste said novels?

BTW- I am the Dynamo GM and Manager on Championship Manager. Sometimes the MLS system is hard to navigate, much less understand (BTW- I manage Houston, Stavanger Vikings where I went to High School, and Sheffield Wednesday just because they play in such a low division yet have a stadium with a large capacity- great for those future promotions…)

In my fantasy league Landin was good (HA!), but I could never get him to stay after the loan. Weaver is a monster. Signed Doni and he did well for a yr but was too slow (I like faster, younger players).

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Fifa's version of MLS is pathetic and poor

I’ve been looking for somewhere to experiment and research game-wise. Might have to make another article for that at point, lol. But yeah, I actually had this article written up 3 hours ago, but when I had set it to publish later I set it for 1pm. Little did I know SBNation does times as PDT, and thus I hopped back on at 2p to find the article not up yet. Sad sad panda. Anyways, it’s a continuing series, so you could just continue the discussions here. I’m still perusing your little back and forth over there to get a good grasp on questions I can ask to you three directly.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

<Ctrl+A>
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:)

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang

Ya changed avatars. I miss the pic looking like a poster for socialism…

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

It was actually General Zod (from Superman)………uh, yeah so I might possibly be a nerd.
 Thought it was time to change it to a lemur (with captions)

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's my lineup

Trade Boswell and Freeman. Find a cheap CB back up. Make a big splash with a good, young CAM DP. Find a cheaper CB backup, maybe an additional striker. Also trade Garey.

by DD77DD on Jul 22, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

So you trade Boswell and Freeman...

Okay cool. Do you target players or money and an international slot maybe? Who’s the DP you’re going to target. And same with Garey, what are we getting in return?

This is your chance to really flesh out the scenario. It may sound weird, but with the lack of MLS scouting, there’s better scouting here in this fanbase. So yeah, throw out what you’re thinking on more than just a “these are my basic moves”. How does your team shape up after the moves?

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

My turn!!!

Trade Boswell and Freeman for foreign slots, moola, draft picks or youth backups with potential. If not, @ least veteran backups with substanitlally lower salaries.

Begin looking for a CAM and proven productive goal scorer.

If a new winger is found, someone (Clark or Cruz) has to go. Probably Clark given Cruz’s age as he’s young. Once Cruz gets a bit wiser/productive in the final third, he’s definitely a starter.

Make a decision on Moffat- starter or bench? If starter, Cameron goes to CB. If not, I’m looking for a DM starter, as I want Cameron to be the CB we hoped Boswell and his 250k was to be- someone to build around.

Freeman starts or goes. I’d commit to rebuilding so he goes.

One of my philosophies- to borrow from Frank Zappa- speed kills. But unlike drugs, speed can kill the other team. I’d begin to accumulate young race horses with lots of stamina. No more exclusively jolly green lumberjacks in the front line. I’d play a faster transition game with a lot of pressing. Formation would depend on players- no more marriage to a formation a la Aron Winter with players who are not even adequate for said formation. In his case, Dutch Total Football becomes Total Foolsball.

As far as scouting, I’d find some really talented domestic scouts and get them a cable subscription to every South American league I could hook up to. Why SA? A spanish only South American player is more likely to fit in and be understood here than an Estonian.

I’d also look @ sending scouts to international youth tourneys held in the States. I might also think of paying scouts with an ongoing stipend supplemented by bounties for good leads.

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Okay so you find your stud CAM in Central America

He opens up lanes and he creates for the guys up top. Great. You’ve got a solid speedy striker kid who can get to the goal in a hurry, with decent enough dribbling skills. In 2 years the Dynamo are top of the table, fighting with NYRB each step of the way…

Now for the challenge.

You’re losing Brad Davis. What then? Are you going to rely on those quick guys for everything or are you looking for some young guys with service ability, too?

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also I agree...

You have to develop some sort of scouting system. Sure nobody else in MLS is really doing it, but why should that stop US for doing it? Be innovative and start the trends, don’t just follow them. If spending some money on a consistent basis helps you field a team that is competitive for now and in the future for many, many years, then it’s an investment that WILL pay off in the long run. And isn’t that what sports is all about? Short term AND long term investments yielding fiscally sound results?

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Amen to that

That’s why I think play and I were talking about trying to establish contacts/relationships with clubs in South America so that we have a sort of “feeder” system and can possibly swap Academy/Youth Team members for experience

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think you do like the NHL does

And you send a single scout out into various areas during their seasons and let them do their job. They’ll find some possibilities, but it’s the only way (imho) that the game grows properly in the US to support the notion of being competitive as a league at even higher levels (perhaps even competitively against the second division European teams)

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends

On who I have literally waiting in the wings…

My foreign slots would primarily be impact players up top (forwards) or in the midfield, with an emphasis on CAM and wings. I want wings who can turn the corner, dribble and cross. I don;t see losing Davis unless we trade him. Like De Ro, he’s great here, but too slow or much of a tweener to get a lucrative contract abroad.

If I lose him, it’s either through trade or out of contract (he wants too much). I like Davis but think in two years he’s either at or slightly past his peak market value, meaning I’m open to options.

I love Ching and feel he deserves every penny of his contract for literally sacrificing his body for the team, but face it- he takes up a lot of cap room with little production. I’d sign Ching (and perhaps Davis) to a contract that pays him more longer, but is less weight on the cap. That way, I reward their service but their long in the tooth yrs hurt a lot less.

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I feel dirty for suggesting trading Ching or trying to get value for him because let’s face it, he’s a legend here. If I had my way I’d say talk him into retiring in a year then bring him on staff. But if I’m a heartless bastard GM then its my job to get value and frankly, his value as a player is expiring sooner than we want.

PS – I love you Ching, I really, really do.

PPS – Scratch everything I said about trading/shopping Ching. I watched the car wreck that was the Rockets shipping Hakeem Olajuwon to the Toronto Raptors for his final years and it was a dirty shame. He should’ve played out his final years & retired as a Rocket for all he did.

PPPS – Need coffee & something to raise my blood sugar

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Again

Restructure his contract. Explain the dilemma (he’s a good guy), then offer him more and restructure so it’ll reduce the amount of salary significantly…

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Ching's time has passed already

But since we don’t actually have his replacement 100% ready yet(the Dancing Bear) I think we do keep him this one more year, let him introduce the new stadium in style. Then, when the contract is up, you bring him on as a staff member, assuming he’d want to do so. If he thinks he can find better elsewhere, that will be his choice, not mine as GM.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you

Winston Wolf…moral dilemma solved!

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok so now I speculate a little on my own...

The Dynamo have one of the best, if not the best) young, developmental GK in Pina. By no means do I want them to ever get rid of him, or to move him. But you also have Tyler Deric riding the pine game after game after game. It’s a well deserved backup role for him, because he is so unbelievably cheap. That’s all good and well, but at the end of this season, as well as Tally has played, does Tally command more salary? I think so.

So now comes the question, what do you do from there? Do you just hold both young guys on your roster and let Deric develop more or do you see your future in Hall, maybe trade Deric since he is quite valuable on the open market, and try to snag some older vet who commands about the same but won’t hold the same value in 2-3 seasons?

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

How marketable is Deric?

Plus remember, if Hall continues to progress, he may go abroad, especially if he gets called up to the USMNT and does well.

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

To me Deric is marketable

He’s not far behind Tally Hall in terms of skill level (and many teams do know this), and he is a year or two younger. Teams like young keepers. With Pina coming up quickly, you don’t need to hold onto Deric, as you have your GK now and for when Hall leaves.

So I think you don’t hold onto Deric in hopes he develops more. You take his youth and market it. Get what you can and use it where you need it more.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

If we feel Pina can overlap Deric’s skills and then some (and based on his progress I think so) , then keep developing both but sell Deric if you can and do it for a nice little mint or outfield players we may need

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

My turn as GM

trade boswell and freeman to toronto, they need defense so badly they might overestimate his worth, maybe we can get Nicholas Lindsay, and 18 year old midfielder out of their academy who had 3 asissts in the four games last year, and lots of allocation money and a foreign slot. The only bad thing about Lindsay is that he will be out for the remainder of the season, but he has so much potential that he’s worth it. Then get a DP CAM, truthfully I can’t think of a good name here, they can do that part, then get an experienced striker, and I actually think Paolo guerrero (guy that random facebook guy said we were getting along with d’allesandro) we might have to DP him as he does play in Germany, but he’s been barely used in the past two years, so they might accept an offer for him. These moves might seem difficult to accomplish, but to me it seems very posssible, if the board really will allow us to “Go Big”.

by DD77DD on Jul 22, 2011 2:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Funny

I saw a post or twit from a Toronto fan drooling over the prospect of getting Boz.

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Lindsey would be an intriguing addition as a forward…aside from being out, though, the hope is that TFC is willing to forego long-term planning for short-term gain. That’s how we could possibly finagle him using Boz & Freeman. But he would be more of someone we’d want to introduce next season and start getting minutes as a sub.

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welll

Winter may not have a lot of time left. If the latest flurry of trades (looking more and more like Trader Mo) doesn’t pan out, he may be gone with Mariner replacing. Good idea to push this now.

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I says

Formation: 4-4-2

Starting XI:
Sarkodie (RB),Hainault (CB), Taylor (CB), Ashe (LB)
Davis (LM), Cameron (DM), Manoel Amorim* (CAM), Watson (RM)
Boniek Garcia (F), Ching*** (F)

Subs:
James Riley**(LB/RB),Boswell (CB), Soto (MF), Moffat (DM), Bruin (F)

Brazilian CAM, 27y/o, ~$700K
*
Trade Freeman + Garey for Riley + small cash
*Start shopping Ching towards the end of the season. Sorry guys, he either needs to look to retire in 2 seasons or we try and trade for what we can. Gotta get younger & faster
*
*I will likely revisit and revise

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Must learn formatting...

The (*) bold stuff is a bit bothersome

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Next time try using the + sign

I don’t think it’s set to any weird formatting setup

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

and Amorim has been playing for Corinthians, who are currently 1st place in the Campeonato Brasileiro

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, to start BB.com, Freeman, and Garey go on the trading block, too much salary to be sitting on the bench. I’m looking for primarily allocation dollars for them but if we someone has a striker with pace to burn I’m listening.

My back four (plus Tally) stay pretty much the same, from right to left I go Sarkodie, Hainault, Taylor, and Ashe with Cameron as my fill-in at centerback as needed for suspensions and injuries.

Cameron becomes my destroyer at holding mid though I’m also tempted to give Moffatt some playing time there and let Cameron play some right mid (since we keep hearing that rumored to be his best position). Brad Davis owns his spot at left mid with Clark and Cruz platooning on the right, I also considering letting Cruz play a bit of striker to see how well he plays off a bigger target guy like Ching or Bruin.

My attacking mid plan is to first offer Andrés D’Alessandro one billion dollars and my first born to get him in orange. If not the rumored Oscar Boniek Garcia could fit the bill, not necessarily as a DP (not positive of his salary requirements) but I might use some of those allocation dollars to make sure there’s enough cash to get him in the door. If he falls through I start talking Celso Borges out of the last few months of his Norweigan contract.

From there we need to add to the strikeforce. Ching is my undisputed number one with Bruin as his understudy but we’re missing the pace needed to play off him and keep a defense on their toes. While I doubt it will happen I’d throw mad cash at Dos Santos to see if I can get him in a Dynamo kit, if you don’t try you never know. If not I seriously start negotiating with Costly (maybe with an incentive based contract) and get my scouts looking for other South and Central American players who can make an impact on the front line. There has to be someone we can pull out of a lower tier league for good money that has the technical skill and speed to do some damage in MLS.

by cfig on Jul 22, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Huzzah!!!

dearest cfig, I had deleted/re-typed my positions about 4 times because I thought of putting Cameron at RM but thought I’d get crucified because again, we’ve experimented with him so much I thought let’s just leave it be. But really it does intrigue me putting him there…but perhaps only in our little CandyLand version.

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea I don't see Cam as a Winger in any sense of the word

I haven’t really seen him warranting any deserved space on the outside, especially the least of which being actual service ability. Now, there’s the possibility of shifting the right mid inside more, creating more of a CRM which would then make sense and open up some possibilities with the RB pressing up more and when on attack becoming more of a CRDM.

Just sayin…

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cameron began as a utility player

But was often the backup on the right wing behind Mullan and Holden in his 1st season… that’s where I remember him beginning…

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yea I do think you are right

But still, you’re overloading at a position I feel we have good depth at already. Watson, Cruz, Clark. The only thing I see making that worthwhile is if you dump Clark (which I think you did in your scenario) and use Watson as a RM backup and maybe Cruz as a LM backup. But you’re stunting Cruz’s growth during Davis’ final years. Is it worth it? Hard to say with Cruz being so damned quick and feisty. The guy deserves to start somewhere, just like Cameron. It’s just a matter of where.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't think where to fit Cameron is a prob

I see Cameron @ CB or DM. Cruz stays on right. Davis has a while. Clark is a keeper, especially if he gets the knees and confidence where he can make his preinjury cuts. He’s understandably a little tentative about making sharp cuts but he’s also a game changer and earns points. The question- is he more valuable for what he can get us or is keeping him the best value?

Need to revisit the salary page…

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't recall his salary being high or anything

But I could be wrong.

-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog

by Fuzion on Jul 22, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

Good point on the depth at right mid. However, I feel like Cameron might make a good right mid not in the traditional winger sense but more in our national team type 4-4-2 with guys like Dempsey and Holden on the outside, guys who tend to cut in and let their fullbacks overlap. I don’t know that I trust Ashe doing that completely but I do like the idea of letting Sarkodie make some runs upfield.

When it all comes down to it, however, I put Cameron at holding mid or centerback unless some odd situation warrants otherwise.

by cfig on Jul 22, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have enough at RM, we only really need a CAM, and a faster striker.

by DD77DD on Jul 22, 2011 3:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Now I says

Formation: 4-3-3

Starting XI:
Hall(GK)
Sarkodie (RB),Hainault (CB), Cameron (CB), Ashe (LB)
Davis (LM), Manoel Amorim1 (CAM), Watson (RM)
Boniek Garcia (F), Ching*** (F), Carlos Renteria2 (F)

Subs:
James Riley3(LB/RB),Taylor (CB), Moffat (CB), Soto (MF), Cruz (MF), Bruin (F), Deric (GK)

1 Brazilian CAM, 27y/o, ~$700K
2 Colombian FW, 25y/o, ~$750K
3 Trade Freeman + Garey for Riley + small cash

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Just a quick question

Do you know of a modern successful team since 1990 that has used a 4-3-3 formation? I don’t even think Ajax used a 433 in 95 when they beat AC milan in the Champions League Final…. It’s a good formation but very hard to find the specific skill set of players to make it work (look @ Toronto).

by playtherapy on Jul 22, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

Although you could argue that Barca, Chelsea, and Bayern Munich have all used 4-3-3 variants at some point over the last few seasons. The line gets blurry in there though.

I will agree we probably don’t have the personnel to play that successfully.

by cfig on Jul 22, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair play

believe me, I take it all as an academic exercise that (maybe???) could have some real-world applications, so to me any critique is welcome. Plus its just so hard to quit you play

You’re absolutely right that the 4-3-3 is like the sword in the stone: whoever can use it wields great power. The issue is precisely that: finding the right people who have experience and the skills to utilize it. As for any recent examples of successful teams (post-1990): Inter Milan & Barca (who play a more quasi-4-3-3)

The trick of course are your midfielders and the need for real wingers (of which we do not have). That’s why in this scenario we’d need to people with experience in that position (Garcia & Renteria) who have dribbling & crossing skills…Ching isn’t the best for that but I think could do until we get The Bear up to snuff (or bring in someone else). As for the MF, Davis would be out of place but I feel Watson would do just fine there and of course Amorim is ideal for the center/playmaker role.

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Without a true No. 9, a very valuable and important No. 9, this will not work. Everyone else would have to play perfectly. So if Dynamo is to switch to this, then first, they have to bring the personnel, starting at No. 9.

Of course, it could very well be that relative to the world of MLS, a true No. 9 is all that Dynamo is lacking to turn into a dangerous, dangerous side, whether in a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 or whatever. Personally, I think if they do not fill the donut hole in the middle with someone of real quality, then they should stick to a 4-4-2, or maybe even a pyramidal (and completely boring) 5-3-2.

However, to paraphrase Galileo (or whomever), get me a No. 9 good enough, and I can move the world.

"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie

by Martek on Jul 22, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

The rub

So, so, so, so true.

I guess its why I’ve been harping on about it and making all of these suggestions because of how critical this position is, either in a 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 or whatever. This is the person who is the link between the back, the front and the sides. So his head needs to be on a swivel, the ball glued to his feet and X-Ray vision. It is a tall order to fill, but when you find that person he is priceless. Why do you think the major teams are ga-ga over Messi, Sjneider, Xavi (and others)? Because that person is the key to driving their offenses and keeping their teams moving together. For me, its absolutely critical that we find someone with the talent to fill that role, and quite honestly this is where we need to make the splash of cash if necessary.

by Michael_D on Jul 22, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

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