Dynamo 2, Crew 2: Chris Penso's Flying Circus
by Zach Woosley on Sep 14, 2011 9:28 PM CDT
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The Dynamo fought back for a 2-2 draw against a 10-man Columbus Crew. That's right, fought back for a draw against a 10-man Crew.
There are a couple ways to look at tonight's draw.
You could rage against referee Chris Penso for giving a ridiculous penalty against Cam Weaver for a ball to hand in the box and allowed the Crew back in to the game. You could complain that the Dynamo had over 80 minutes of a man advantage and couldn't effectively break down the Crew defense and finish their chances.
Effectively, both lines of thought are true and I guess it depends on whether you want to try to take a positive or negative spin on the game.
The Dynamo needed a win considering that several teams right on their tail in the standings have multiple games in hand, but a loss would of course have been far more devastating. Basically I don't know what to think. I can't decide whether to rage against the referee or complain about the Dynamo's continued offensive ineptitude.
What we know for certain is that Chris Penso is just another bad referee in a long line of bad referees. His call on Weaver was flat-out wrong and I'm sure USSF will say he made the right call. As for the second penalty, that was at least a legitimate call. Je-Vaughan Watson lost his mark on a set piece (for not the first time this season) and put himself in a bad spot.
It's just plain frustrating. The Dynamo were handed a chance to get a key three points and their first road victory in 2011 on a silver platter...and they still couldn't get the job done. Am I being to harsh in saying it's simply not good enough?
Needless to say, there is plenty to chew on from this result but I'll end on a positive. Calen Carr scored a great goal, his first of the season. After spending nearly a year out with the after effects of a concussion, it's great to see Carr not only playing but scoring goals. Definitely something to feel good about on an otherwise frustrating evening of soccer.
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Sigh
how many times have I started a comment that way? It truly feels like we’re cursed somehow…yeah, we can view this different ways. On the one hand, we actually played very well. Camargo made his case to be our starting CAM, and it was great seeing Cameron back at CB not only to anchor the defense but also his passing out of the back. After going down a man and then a goal, the Crew parked the bus and made only an occasional attempt at a counter…and apparently that’s all it took. Two calls, two goals…un-f**ing-real. Sorry. Typing that out kinda drove that home.
Yes, we should’ve gone for the kill but again: up a goal with a stronger D and a man advantage, it would’ve been best to get another goal but considering our record on the road it seemed like Dom wanted us to escape with a point. And had that happened I think we all would’ve said fair play. I think we all wish we could’ve got that extra goal to go up 2-1 but we all wanted to take home 3 pts. It’s just we’re also star-crossed and unlucky so of course it didn’t work out for us. The first call on Weaver was crap, and to compound matters Watson gave up a second penalty by dozing off. It stinks because Watson was in redemption mode and showing his pace, creativity and movement…and also why he can be a headache: flashes of brilliance with defensive absences. And that’s it folks, there went 3pts converted into 1.
On the bright side, Carr was inspired out there and I really think that had Carr been put in earlier while Camargo was still in we might’ve cracked that nut of a defense Columbus had out there. Carr seemed to be more active this time and his activity paid off in a wonderful equalizer to save the point for us. He still seems to be finding his comfort level with being bodied up but his pace could’ve allowed him to latch on to some through-balls. And Watson…did fairly well back at RB. He occasionally put in some crap balls but he was linking up well and overlapping well with Watson. I wouldn’t mind putting that line-up back out on Saturday, but of course depending on Ching’s condition starting him in instead of Weaver.
Well, what do we do now? We’re still in 4th, right, and we’ll try to win at home? Based on the evidence of tonight it can happen, and odds-are we’ll do it its just I want to see that killer instinct. Do we have it? Will Dom foster it? And will we go for it? Our chances of making the playoffs rest on that, in my opinion
Gotta sit with this one. I am disgusted with this result personally, and my snap judgment is that what you see here is what the 2011 season is all about. We dropped two points tonight, but in the context of the season as a whole, isn;t it obvious that we are getting what we deserve?
I guess I’ll have more to contribute tomorrow.
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
Mixed
I guess my reaction is different from the KC game because I still feel strongly that we went in to that game backwards, and it was frustrating for me because while we could’ve been competitive I felt our line-up doomed us before the ball was ever kicked. Here, the line-up was much more promising and we saw that…its just a couple of calls (one was crap) and suddenly we’re down a goal. I just don’t know anymore
vision a problem for Dynamo Players
Players are taught at a early age to get their head up and take a mental picture of the field before the pass or shot. It is very rare to find a player who can see the field and know what his teammates are doing. Clearly the dynamo do not get there head up and see the field. The only pass they seem to know is to drop the ball back Possession means nothing unless u create shots on goal. The ball was not passed to camargo for him to create anything. The dynamo wasted a advantage by not passing to their playmakers. The question is was that done on purpose.
Coaches get too much credit sometimes for a teams success and its failures. Credit should be given to Dom for using his bench and his subs was rt on. When u play undiscipline players the results can be mixed, goals scored or shots missed. WE do need to play Cruz more.
Hall seems to have a hard time with air balls in the box. Hope we made the rt choice to play him.
We are still in the hunt
Go Dynamo’s
I think
again, the problem is we have no one with pace who could bother their defense…we saw Carr do that with the time he was in there, and I only wish Camargo was in there to try slipping him passes to latch on to. It’s those kind of probing balls through the middle that will unlock a stubborn defense that is parking in front of the box. But, as usual we have peanut butter but no jelly
-_-
So Watson scored and then after that he decided to switch to f****ing dumbass mode like always. I agree with the second penalty because why the f*** are you going to kick the ball like that? He has NO discipline in his defensive ways and HE has cost us points once AGAIN!!! He’s only consistent in being stupid. Congrats on Calen for his first goal, I thought it had a great finishing touch
"Some" positives
- Cameron at the back looked good, particularly with his stepping up and distribution out
- Carr looked lively when he came on and scored a great goal.
- Camargo looked tidy on the ball – when he had it. Seemed to drop back a little too much for my liking, filling same space as Moffat at times and not leaving anyone more advanced to link with forwards through the middle or “direct traffic”. possibly one reason why we just went side to side aimlessly before hoofing a hopeful ball into the front guys
BUT….we have about as much creativity as a plank of wood.
Now that we see that Camargo can play as our CAM (or CM, whatever), the question is who do we play that can best take advantage of that? I think he’ll get more comfortable moving up the pitch, we just need to keep playing him. The issue is, do we start next time with Clark or maybe Cruz on the right? Watson, dear Watson, what a double-edged sword you are: he played great until….he didn’t. And that’s been his story all season. If he hadn’t fallen asleep on D, I would be eating crow right now but he did what he’s been accused of all season: great offensive flourish and then takes the piss on D. Only this time he did it at a critical time that cost us a penalty. So do we start him again? I thought he wouldn’t see a start again this season but there he was. So will he be there on the right or will it be Clark or Cruz? It’s critical because we’re going to have to rely on our RM to have pace to trouble the defense because aside from Carr, we don’t have anyone with speed. The only other option we have is Ashe but only from his overlapping runs from the left.
After watching this game I was thinking of the game the night before, Santos Laguna v Colorado. While Santos has a bit quicker squad than us, what stood out to me was the play of Darwin Quintero. That mo’fo is FAST. He was troubling the COL defense all night and any through-ball or pass over the top instantly became dangerous because of his pace. If we had someone like that to pair with Bruin, Ching or Weaver (or even Costly, if he’d score) I think you’d see a different dynamic to this team. The question is, will we do something about it?
And remember
While Camargo, who is naturally a Dmid, might be playing out of position at CAM, this is far better than Cameron, who should be a CB or DMid playing out of position as a CAM.
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
And of course...
All of our CAMs’ last names must begin with “C-A-M.” I think it’s the 2nd Law of Kinnear
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
Another thing
is we’re beginning to see Problem 1a beginning to surface. Back when the transfer market was open and talking of signing DPs who were either CAMs or FWs were all the rage, we said that our primary focus needs to be getting a CAM, or at least some kind of forward MF. I think Camargo can be that, to an extent, but you can tell that he’s finding where he “fits” in this team. The skill, passing and quality are there, its just finding his place. But now that brings us to the other issue…we have no one fast. Aside from Carr, who is still working his way back and it shows with his touch and the way he seems to be buckling under challenges, the only other person with speed on this team is Cruz. And Cruz, while speedy, is still young and prone to mistakes that cost us. He and Watson had several opportunities last night to put a ball or pass in and instead pulled the trigger and sent balls to the people in the nose-bleeds. Instead of playing it in to someone and then making a run you take a wild shot that leads to nothing. We need a forward or winger with speed who can latch on to passes or at least have movement that pulls opposing defenders out of position. You saw what KC did to us, but we have no answer. Carr COULD be part of that answer but is gonna need time…I’m not knocking him because he’s been out all season and quite understandably looks a bit hesitant out there – I think anyone recovering from a serious concussion takes time to find what they’re comfortable with, particularly at a position where you’re going to be hit by larger guys and have to use your head again. I wish we could’ve found someone around the league we could’ve traded with before the deadline today but of course that won’t happen.
Most of the pieces are in place now, and I think now Dom’s issue might be who the right pair up top is. Is it Costly-Ching? Costly-Bruin? Bruin-Ching? Ching-Carr? It’s clear we need someone quicker up top, and its that lack of speed that stifles our options of what we can do. I feel strongly that the more Camargo plays the more creative you’ll see us become. The issue is, do we have people to take advantage of that creativity and opportunities?
Camargo as a CAM
Once more means a player is a vital role is NOT playing his natural position.
Was the loan of Camargo supposed to support Cameron @ attacking mid? That is, was Moffat supposed to play backup in the original plan? If so, once again, our FO leaves us without a CAM. More experimentation.
Mixed blessing
I think the FO lucked out on this one whether they realize it or not. I dearly hope your speculation of getting Camargo to support Cameron at CAM is off-base because you might want to take my scissors away from me if that was the plan. That’d be right up there with buying a Porsche and replacing the engine with a Ford Focus. Camargo played more as a DM/CM, which in Brazil has quite a lot of midfield liberty with it. It’s why right now he occasionally gets up near the opposite box but then drifts back to center circle. For us, that’s probably for the best because if we had a “true” CAM he would run himself ragged because he would be generating all by himself. We need at least two people up top with pace, and right now we have none. So it’s actually OK for Camargo to play a deeper AM role. It offers some creativity but balances it with defense. Yes I know, more experimentation but this at least is better experimentation.
/still Bargaining
Soooooooooooooooooo
We play a diamond which is not a diamond, then get confused when the diamond has Fiat like results? As in, is there anybody up there?
I don't know a holding MF in Brazil is likely a more offensive minded position than it is in the US
I think the skill set is there. He just needs to get his positioning down and get in synce with his teammates. I’m not saying it will work. Just that I think there’s a chance it can.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Well
they do tend to play higher up the pitch than DM’s here typically do, and watching some of his highlights he has played higher up the pitch playing wingers or forwards through. I’m not saying DM’s here can’t do that, its just perhaps not as frequent an occurrence as it is in South America, particularly Brazil. Perhaps its me stuck in the Bargaining stage :)
But I completely agree that I think with more playing time he’ll get the positioning and timing necessary to make more of an impact
She says to leave it to me (leave it to me), Everything'll be alright?
RedAce, your f****ing dumbass mode comment continues to crack me up, mainly because I can see it.- Watson with a multi-setting toggle switch on the back of his neck. The settings might be:
• Flashes of brilliance mixed with casual indifference/not tracking back mode
• You might not know it by my invisibility but I’m actually on the field mode
• I want to be a World Class Player, then show you I’m light years away mode
• And f****ing dumbass mode.
I didn’t see the game, but as far as evals from a far- I both think this was a missed opportunity and a quirky game. We have bad juju on the road- we scored two, which with a fair defense should have given us max pts.
Yet, we were undone by penalties- one of which was questionable. Before we get our danders up to much, let’s put this in context:
• It’s not unheard of to get questionable calls as a visitor.
Ergo, it’s par for the course. The mark of any team is its ability to overcome adversity. We are in the middle of the road on this- we can’t seem to get over the hump but the Teamsters haven’t gone and buried us under the hump either.
The question- after June had us seeing visions of sugar plums dancing in our heads- since the exit of De Ro has been: if the streaky Flyin’ Hawaiian is on a downswing or injured, who takes up the slack? Last night the answer completely shocked me- Watson and Carr? Watson, a guy who hadn’t scored all season and Carr, who we suspected might never play another minute of professional footy?
That’s the Yang. The Yin is our inability to take it to an undermanned team and letting them back into the game. Another context- not taking it to them after last Saturday’s shellacking at KC. In other words, when we are a man down, we get our pants pulled down, and that’s after the wedgy and discounting the inevitably swirly that follows. When we are a man up, we get this…
I’m elated at the point for an away draw. I’m more frustrated by Saturday’s shame than this one. This sets up Ginge’s weekly preview, which now must be renamed, The Biggest Game of the Season…
Yet, there’ll be a point when pissing on an electric fence has its consequences… will it be soon or later?
Its why
I wish we had picked up a couple more guys in the transfer window. Speed, or lack thereof, is killing us. Want to know why teams can park the bus on us? Because they know we don’t really have anyone who will cause their backline any problems. Of course Ching is great at creating and being crafty and whatnot but needs the ball played to him with his back to the goal. We don’t have anyone who can make a streaking run to latch on to through-balls, who can play off of Ching. We have a CAM-ish guy in Camargo but we have no one with pace on the wing (Cruz has the speed but not the touch or decision-making, he’s effectively a younger Oduro but with desire) or anyone with pace as a forward. It continues to make us relatively easy to defend, particularly on the road.
As for the penalties, I think we’re all numb to them at this point…again, I see better officiating in my Sunday league. But really, two give two penalties in 12 minutes? Almost unheard of. There’s bad luck and then there’s WTF.
Oh, and I’m loving the idea you have playing off RedAce: I can so see the panel with toggle switch on him. Switching to dumb-a$$ mode!
I prefer to laugh
Than to go Jake Lamotta. But the whinging by players about “we’re trying so hard, why are fans so mean to us” falls on deaf ears.
I’d kill to have the physical ability and opportunity to play pro footy. Not to go all Walter Mitty on ya, though criticism for poor performance and even poor effort comes with that oh so rough job.
In other words, we just want you to know that as Dynamo fans, we’d f***ing kill to be in your boots.
Classic Creative v Industrious
For those of us not blessed to swim in the “right” gene pool, we can only do sports recreational or as spectators, so to see those with the physical gifts who can do it professionally, it chafes us to think that they’re not trying hard enough because as you perfectly put it, we would kill to be in their boots.
I’m gonna show my domesticated side and quote this line I always remember from The Devil Wears Prada
“Because this place, where so many people would die to work you only deign to work.”
/hangs head in shame
//can’t believe I quoted from that movie on a soccer site
///hands in man card
Martek told me
Cameron was expresssing frustration at fan’s negatviity when on Glen Davis’s Radio Show
Many men marry just to get into their wife's closet
but do they stay there???
Watch urself, Prada Bhoy, you tread dangerous territory…
from Planes, Trains and Automobiles:
[in bed in the hotel room, Neal and Del are holding hands as they awaken]
Neal: Del, why did you kiss my ear?
Del: Why are you holding my hand?
Neal: Where’s your other hand?
Del: Between two pillows.
Neal: Those aren’t pillows!
[both scream in shock and get out of bed, grossed out, then soon shake it off and pretend to forget about it]
Neal: See that Bears game last week?
Del: Yeah. Hell of a game. Hell of a game.
Neal: Bears’ got a great team this year. They’re gonna go all the way.
LMAO
I should make a poster saying that. If y’all see a sign like that on the top seats of Section 110 or 111 then you know it’s me lol. I usually have my Dynamo flag hanging on the fencing
I look forward to it
I hope you don’t need it, but at this point he’ll probably still get some kind of minutes. So….yeah, you’ll probably need it :)
well if you're not putting anything in my drink then I'm not going.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
I would go!
I really want to meet you guys (I’ll probably be the only 19 year old there lol) but there’s some thing called U of H that’s stopping me! Damn you education
Go & learn
stay young and positive…otherwise you become grizzled, cynical trolls like me, play & Martek. But we are funny, I think :)
/at least the food there is good
More Jamaican Jerk on richmond @ 11:30 am or something completely different?
by playtherapy on Sep 15, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I plan to be there. Though isn’t “Jamaican Jerk” one of Watson’s infamous “modes?”
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
Couple of things I noticed
our passing looked way better than it did on Saturday. Not sure if the man advantage helped that.
Not sure why Weaver plays. He looks like the little lost kid out there and he did not help our offense at all.
Was impressed with Bruin, coming back from an injury is tough, I think he played pretty good.
I’m all for the guys “pulling the trigger” I just wish the ball wouldn’t go into the upper deck. But at least they shot the ball. That’s what’s frustrating, no killer instinct. Weaver stands at the top of the box and looks to pass not turn and shoot.
I don’t blame the refs. We had this game in the bag and stupid mistakes costs us.
I did vote for this blog….sorry it didn’t win.
Damn
It didn’t win? I voted daily on 2 computers
Geeez
Sigh
by playtherapy on Sep 15, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
80 MINUTES
That’s how long we were a man up. We showed good patience and control working that team and wearing down their 10 men up to the point Watson scored. After that we kept doing the same thing as before (moving the ball around looking for an opening), but with less intensity and it seemed like with no real intention of pushing forward. Did these professionals actually think that 1 goal was going to seal it up? Well this guy turned to his wife and said “One goal is not going to win this game” (just like I did when the US Women went up on Japan). So if I knew that, why didn’t they? They played with no urgency as though the game were over and in the bag. They had no killer instinct to go and truly close out the game. Not until the inclusion of Carr (which I had also thought about 15 minutes earlier), Cruz, and Clark and after we went down a goal did we kick it into 4th gear. So we are completely capable but lack a certain mental composure to be champions.
A lot of good things came out of this game:
-Camargo showed well, but he’ll have to play more with the team and sort out his positioning
-Cameron in CB (finally)
-Carr showing he can not only be a speed threat but can finish as well (have you thought about what Oduro would have done with that chance?)
Putting all the positives aside overall this game was a disappointment. If you can’t put a game away playing a man up for 80 minutes and getting the first goal then there is a problem. They came out of the gate better than they did against KC, but still not enough. After all these disappointments I don’t think the players are going to be able to get out of this funk before the season is over.
After this game I have seen enough evidence that I feel this season has been an improvement over last season and that next season will be better, but I don’t think we’ll make the playoffs.
No arguments here
that about sums it up…and as Ginge astutely put it, we played good but not good enough (or something like that). We may make the playoffs, but we’ll see about that…and there’s of course the school of thought that says that perhaps missing the playoffs wouldn’t be a bad thing for this team.
But I’m really here because I couldn’t help but laugh when you mentioned Carr’s goal because when I saw it, of course I ran around yelling “GOOL!”…and when they replayed it a couple of seconds later, I immediately thought “wow, Oduro would’ve put that into the 300 section”
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