So About that Conditional Draft Pick
by Fuzion on Feb 16, 2012 4:19 PM CST
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As everyone and their Mom knows by now, Brian Ching has returned to the Orange, even practicing today with the team, after a semi-lengthy process involving the Montreal L'Impact and the Houston Dynamo. When the deal was announced, speculation was made as to the Draft Pick the L'Impact acquired. Some said it was for a First Rounder, some said a Conditional Draft Pick. A little bit ago, JdJO confirmed the pick is indeed a Conditional Draft Pick, but what exactly does that mean?
Thankfully, our sometimes beloved Chron reporter, Jose de Jesus Ortiz, gave us all the information we need to know:
Jose de Jesus Ortiz
@OrtizKicksI have confirmed that Montreal's conditional pick for 2013 will become 1st pick after Ching plays 20 games. It's 2nd pick otherwise.
So let's break that down, shall we?
If the Cap plays in 20 MLS games in 2012 for the Houston Dynamo, the Draft Pick traded to Montreal Impact is a 1st Rounder in 2012. If the Cap does not manage 20 games for the Dynamo this season the pick is downgraded to a 2nd rounder. Sounds reasonable enough, but what are the chances he plays in 20 games for the Houston Dynamo? Wikipedia, our wonderful friend for knowledge lusting, has given us a good clue as to the likelihood of Cap playing in a full 20 games.
In 2011 Chinger appeared in 13 MLS games for the Dynamo. In 2010, he appeared in exactly 20 games. In 2009, he reached 24 game appearances. In 2008, he reached 36 appearances - the most he's played in a Dynamo Orange uniform over the course of a full season. In the last 4 seasons, the Chinger has regressed tremendously from the 36 game mark to the 13 game mark. Obviously, injuries played a huge role in this, but at the same time, his age gives reason to believe this season could be the lesser of the average of the last 4 seasons.
That is to say, the chances are better than 50% Cap will play in less than 20 games this season. This would leave the Draft Pick swapped for Cap as a 2nd rounder, essentially making the trade an easy to declare winner for the Dynamo. What do you say Dynamo fans? Is it going to be a 1st or 2nd rounder?
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I guess that condition is 20 league games?
Now that the Dynamo are back in CONCACAF competition starting later in the year, he could easily play more than 20 matches in all competitions. I hope his excitement of coming back home leads him to have a stellar year. I’m happy with the news but I know others may not be (or at least could go either way)…
I wonder
If you’re right and its just league games. That would be a crazy awesome loophole.
by HernanEscobar on Feb 16, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Even if he does play 20 games
which i dont think he will, it is still a win. These draft picks are a crap-shoot. I rather take one year of Cap at less than 100% this year than the chance that the draft holds. This guy had five goals (tied for the lead) last year, and only appeared 20 games.
In my mind, what’s more important, is that we get more time to develop Bruin. That kid has potential and one more year of learning from Cap can only help him.
Either way, this is a great move. I’m not sure our front office had this entire thing planned out but they certainly played it very well. It is rare to find a case where a star player takes a salary cut to stay in a place that he loves/loves him. We are only surrounded by stories like that of Albert Pujols where players are in it for the money. I cannot wait for this first game, Brian deserves the biggest standing ovation that has ever been given by dynamo fans.
See yall there
I wonder
Do we have an official Orange Hall of Fame? Kinda like the Chicago’s Ring of Fire? Cus Brian Ching and Dom deserve to both go into it for eternity. And our grandkids will read stories of our Captain haha. Also, yeah Bruin is a HUGE part of this clubs future, he needs to get a ton of playing time this season.
by HernanEscobar on Feb 16, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions
The Orange Blazer Club
Is what you are referring to, though right now I don’t think there are any players in it
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
by Martek on Feb 18, 2012 2:57 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
There should be one Wade Barrett in it already
And soon to be inducted, one Eddie Robinson in it, too.
Let’s not forget Waibel either.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
This is exactly how I see it
You guys essentially go unaffected from expansion draft and probably lose a 2nd round pick, which will be really high since I don’t think anybody expects Houston to flop. I don’t know if the FO was planning this the whole time either, but if so they clowned everyone involved. If Marsch was gambling by doing this pick, he lost big time.
by chrisperry1983 on Feb 17, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
19 games and...
I’m interested to hear all the details on this. Whatever the small print turns out to be, give Ching the home opener and then mothball him for the playoffs. That’s right, Playoffs!
Thats an amazing way to create cap space and still keep your captain
Dynamo somehow managed to come out ahead on this b/c they get Ching back and they have more cap space to use. None of this would have been possible with L’Impact :) Hah, hated them at first, but this seems best case scenario and all you give up is a draft pick.
I'm not sure
if this was the strategy all along but if so, we just hustled L’Impact hard. Like you said, we get back the Cap on a lighter salary (thus freeing up cap space) and it only cost us a conditional draft pick. I’m not saying we’re gonna ice Ching after 19 games, but recent history has shown he may not play 20 games this season, thus turning the pick into a 2nd-rounder. Just sayin’
What I really want to happen
is for Ching to be healthy and contributing all season long at the level he used to be.
However, if not….
In October, there are three games to play. Dynamo have already clinched the Eastern top spot. Ching has played in 19 games and and is nursing a small knock. He could play, but in the third to last game, ironically at home to (drumroll) the Montreal L’Impact, he’s kept out for “observation” reasons.
Second to last game, on his way to El Banco for the game against the Union on Oct. 20, loses his way and winds up at Robertson Stadium instead. Simple mistake. Could happen to anyone. Gets in his car to drive to El Banco and.. OH NO! Out of gas. Oh well. There’s one game remaining right?
Last game, heading to the airport to catch team flight to Denver for Oct. 27 game against the Crapids, goes to Hobby instead of Intercontinental.
Enjoy that second rounder Jesse. Knowing your history with draft picks, I’m sure you’ll enjoy trading it for a bucket of warm piss or something.
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
So you're saying Marsch does indeed want JeVaughn Watson?
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
No
That would be a bucket of cold piss
"We don't care who finishes second." -- Celtic's Peter Lowrie
by Martek on Feb 17, 2012 9:35 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ahh, my mistake then
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
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